John White has experienced a lot in his time at Southend United.
Quite simply, there's been captaining the side to promotion at Wembley in the Play-Off Final and then the other end of the table, but equal in emotion, is beating the drop on the final day of last season against Sunderland.
We got 20 minutes of John's time to talk about the two moments and compare the pressures involved of trying to get promoted and trying not to get relegated.
The centre back spoke in depth about, firstly, how he's doing during the current lockdown, and then the range of emotions linked to that final day against Sunderland and what it meant come the final whistle.
Take a look at the full interview with White on iFollow Blues, which is currently available to anyone with a 'Basic Pass'.